Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

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andrewallan
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Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by andrewallan » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:24 pm

I'm looking at making a tarp/bugnet system for our next NZ trip in Jan 2012, that allows us to sleep bug free on an upturned raft, and also to be relatively dry. We plan to take a tarp (perhaps 8' x 10' as well, for more general shelter, should we need to stand around under something in the pissing rain, but the likelihood for sleeping is that our heads will be protected by the tarp, but that out legs will stick out from under it, and may need some rain proection.

Is there anything out there in the general market that would do this, or do I need to design it myself?

I'm thinking of a nice little tarp that covers a packraft, but also has some netting from the edges of the tarp to the ground, outside the perimeter of the raft, and obviously has no groundsheet.

I slept on my upturned packraft last year for the first time, and it was probably the most comfortable sleep I have EVER had (sad as that is). Just needed some bug and rain protection.

Andrew Allan

Jules Watson
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Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by Jules Watson » Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:44 pm

andrew -for catenary curves etc for tarps, and general advice, read up on Roger Caffin's Bushwalking FAQ pages (google it), looking for the lightweight / DIY pages. Also check out threads and articles on Backpacking Light.

uncoolperson

Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by uncoolperson » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:20 pm

would a tarp be necessary? my brother lives out of a waterproof bivy and a half body bug net (~6 foot dia bug net, and elastic around the outside... only cover what you need to) for most of his adventures. and if it's too nasty/sunny a simple tarp over that.

andrewallan
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Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by andrewallan » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:57 pm

Jules, I've been a long follower of Roger Caffin's FAQs - fascinating reading.

Uncoolperson - yep, it would be possible just to fit in under our bigger home tarp, but I'd like a little more roof covering for sleeping under. When it rains there, it can really rain properly! (as in the river can rise 4-5 feet over a few hours), and, whilst I've used a goretex bivvy bag, and still own an epic one, I'm not sure that I'd like to rely on them entirely.

I've decided to bite the bullet and give a Hennessy Hammock a go, particularly as we are often limited in terms of rocks etc on the ground in terms of where we can sleep, and there are always enough trees!

Andrew A

uncoolperson

Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by uncoolperson » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:46 pm

andrewallan wrote: Uncoolperson - yep, it would be possible just to fit in under our bigger home tarp, but I'd like a little more roof covering for sleeping under. When it rains there, it can really rain properly! (as in the river can rise 4-5 feet over a few hours), and, whilst I've used a goretex bivvy bag, and still own an epic one, I'm not sure that I'd like to rely on them entirely.
I understand rain (NW washington state, about 3 not rainy days a year, I can't go for a walk without a snorkle [both exaggerations]) I go full on proper-ish tent (golite shangri-la 3 [golite has/had a code for ~40% off... I don't recall what it was but I could find it if you can't], eurka spitfire, or something).

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Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by mthillbilly » Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:26 pm

Beleive it or not... Last year on a sea kayak trip in Prince William Sound the kayak rental guy asked "Do you have any black tarps for bugs?" Of course we didn't know what he was talking about. He went on to say that the black tarp would deter bugs and we could sit, cook ,and relax under it without needing our face nets. We were skeptical to say the least, but we took one from him anyways. After reaching our first campsite we se up the tarp and the guy was right. All the bugs swarmed around the outside of the tarp and very few of the massive swarm ventured under it. Worked every day of the trip. Not sure if this works at night cause we were there during the long summer Alaskan days, but it defenitly worked while the sun was out. Haven't tried it here (Montana) because the bugs are not as big of an issue... Might be worth a try...

jfjobin
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Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by jfjobin » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:41 am

Beleive it or not... secrete weapon
A black tarp??A regular cheap plastic tarp but simply black?No net?Do you have picture?

mthillbilly
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Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by mthillbilly » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:47 pm

Sorry no pics... but yes a regular cheap tarp, only black. The funny thing is I have yet to see them for sale anywhere...

jfjobin
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Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

Post by jfjobin » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:50 pm

Do you smell tarp?No deet smell,i know :probably Permethrin,or invisible net!!or funky mosquito!!

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Re: Any ideas about the ultimate tarp and bug protection

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