Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

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OrbitalD
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Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by OrbitalD » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:33 pm

I was wondering about the comparative ease of rolling the various Alpacka rafts. Models I'm considering include the Llama, Gnarwhal (long), and the Alpackalypse (long). I've paddled kayaks for the past 5 years so I've got a decent kayak roll but I've never tried to roll a pack raft. I've paddled a Yak and Forager on multiple trips but the Yak did not have thigh straps. Do 12" tubes make the gnarwhal a lot harder to roll than the Llama or Alpackalypse? I realize I would need to add thigh straps to a new Llama. Thanks for any input and advice.

OrbitalD
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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by OrbitalD » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:34 pm

I called Alpacka and they said the Alpackalypse is probably the easiest to roll due to its smaller tube diameter. They also said the newer vectran material is more rigid and can be inflated to slightly higher pressures making the raft stiffer and easier to roll.

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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by MikeC » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:05 am

I agree that the 'lypse rolls easiest.

rolling a packraft requires a modification to standard kayak roll technique. kind of a blend of a sweep and a c to c.

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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by Craigp » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:01 pm

Is rolling a practical, valuable skill for packrafters? In other words are there many people out there who can combat roll a packraft when they capsize in a rapid? It seems like even really good, capable boaters are swimming/ wet-exiting when they capsize, not rolling how a hard shell boater would. Just curious if anyone has input on this. I know there are quite a few people who are experienced kayakers and packrafters.

OrbitalD
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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by OrbitalD » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:21 pm

These guys seem to have a combat roll.

https://vimeo.com/wyattroscoe/low-flow-hunters

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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by Craigp » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:48 pm

Yep, good video thanks. Sorry about the thread hijack there.

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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by OrbitalD » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:32 am

Not a hijack at all. Thanks for bringing up the question!

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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by MikeC » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:47 am

Craigp wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:01 pm
Is rolling a practical, valuable skill for packrafters? In other words are there many people out there who can combat roll a packraft when they capsize in a rapid? It seems like even really good, capable boaters are swimming/ wet-exiting when they capsize, not rolling how a hard shell boater would. Just curious if anyone has input on this. I know there are quite a few people who are experienced kayakers and packrafters.

Depends on you, and what you want to do. The more committing the whitewater you plan to paddle, the less safe swimming becomes.

I personally paddle with 4 other people that roll their packrafts regularly. I'm about 50/50 on rolling, and always aiming to better that number.

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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by DeanMarv » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:36 am

OrbitalD wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:21 pm
These guys seem to have a combat roll.

https://vimeo.com/wyattroscoe/low-flow-hunters
That seems to do the trick. ;)
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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by DIRTYDEVIL » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:44 am

OrbitalD wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:21 pm
These guys seem to have a combat roll.

https://vimeo.com/wyattroscoe/low-flow-hunters

I bet he could hand roll a hardshell kayak in class V. For the average packrafter, its a whole different story.

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Re: Ease of Rolling Alpacka Rafts

Post by OrbitalD » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Some make it look easy...

"OK... don't try this at home. Really. Our CEO Thor Tingey is an expert at rolling any packraft, as he's had his hand in designing and mastering pretty much every single prototype and final boat his mother, Sheri Tingey, the designer and founder of the company, has built over the last 17 years. We don't actually recommend you attempt to roll the Forager as you could blow your shoulder out, but we've had so many people ask to see the Forager in action... here you go.

As well, the boat will not be available in camo at this time; this was a prototype boat. Video by Tyler Marlow"

https://video.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t ... e=5AA612F5

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